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Issa Lopez:When you start writing a murder mystery, you’d better know who the killer is…
Otherwise, you’re going to twist something to make it work.
The rest is just filled-in blanks, and filling in the blanks is fun!
Kali, what did you think when you read it in the script for the first time?
Kali Reis:First of all, I didn’t see it coming.
I was just like, “Yes!
I can hear all the aunties screaming!
“, like yeah, it was such a revelation.
Lopez:There’s no fun in areas that arent a little grey, right?
You have to give it to them.
Kali, what was that like to explore?
Reis:It was something I didn’t really have to explore because it was something so personal.
Navarro needed to hear all that to make it move forward, whatever her choice was.
I mean, even thinking about it now, it’s just very, very personal to me.
So it was an easy, easy relation.
Did you look at it for inspiration?
Lopez:Oh, absolutely.
In the writing process, I went back and watched Seven and Silence of the Lambs.
I watched The Thing, I watched Sicario, I definitely watched the first season a bunch of times.
I watched noir movies.
And how the cameras move in The Shining became a reference on how we shot Tsalal.
There is a little bit of Alien in there, you know, the crew of the Nostromo.
Kali, how did the singular setting influence your performance?
It reallyfeltlike they were getting closer and closer and closer to the answer.
What was that like to shoot?
What was it like getting ranted at by Jodie Foster?
Reis:That’s one of my favorite scenes, honestly.
I just think that whole scene is just so powerful.
It just says so much about where Navarro is; she’s ready to listen.
But she’s so careful with how she handles Danvers.
She’s just like, ‘You know what?
Lopez:What wowed me was the layers of emotion she goes through in every single line.
Every word is so full of history and meaning, and that change in register was never predictable.
I couldn’t tell how she was gonna deliver one line to the next line.
It was truly wonderful and a privilege to be on that set that day, witnessing that.
Reis:I don’t think there was a dry eye in the house.
Every time Jodie wouldgothere and every time, we would just take a second after and breathe.
I’d look at Jodie and she’d go, ‘Let’s go again’.
Was there ever a version of the show that delved into what happened to Holden more?
Lopez:I think that it’s up to the audience to reconstruct whatever happened was she there?
Because she wonders, ‘Was he hurt?
Was he calling me and I was not there?’
It happened,thenshe got there, and that’s all we see.
How important was it for you to include men like that in this narrative?
Lopez:It was vital.
We’re not saying that men are evil in this series.
That’s not what it is aboutat all.
Navarro and Danvers are not good people; they’re not.
They will end up making the right decisions but they’ve made bad decisions in their lives.
What does the spiral mean to you?
Is it all by chance?
Because that can be an explanation, you know?
It’s a more rational, Danvers-style explanation.
I have a spiral tattoo myself and I got it way before I saw True Detective.
Or is it what Clark is saying?
Is there a spirit that sleeps in the night country?
The sleeping woman, woken up by the evil deeds of humanity.
We’re trapped in that circle of time.
Do you think Annie really killed the scientists?
It causes visions and panic, and voila, corpsicle!
Or, did they really face the entity that they woke up?
It’s your decision.
Reis:… and spit out their frozen bones.
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